Is Florida Getting Too Crowded?

The state may overtake New York in population size, with 60 percent of new residents moving from other U.S. states and 40 percent from abroad.

Florida's population is surging – again!

The Sunshine State is on a path to push past New York and become the third most-populous state in the nation, according to the the U.S. Census.

About 60 percent of the new residents are from other U.S. states, and 40 percent are from abroad, according to University of Florida researchers.

Is this a good trend for Florida, its economy and future? What do you think?

According to the U.S. Census: "Florida's total population growth of 219,000 during 2010–2011 ranked third behind Texas (421,215, 1st) and California (353,714, 2nd) in the United States. Florida remains the fourth largest state in the country. The data also reveal that if Florida maintains this growth rate and if New York maintains its current growth rate, Florida will surpass New York as the third most populated state in the country sometime in the 2013–2014 timeframe."

Some see it as bragging rights.

Others heave a collective sigh and envision bigger traffic jams, longer waits and over-crowded schools.

Is there room and resources for everyone, or do you want to close the doors to new growth in Florida? Let us know in the comments below!

George Carlson January 10, 2013 at 03:43 PM
Florida Government is made up of Developers and those who are bribed by developers. The blame rests on the long time residents for letting this happen. They voted for it without any realization since thay did Not bother to investigate who they were voting for. They did Not attend County meetings to raise their voices in opposition. They did Not boycott builders nor did they try to stop them in any other way and there Are Many other ways. Just use your imagination before Floridas Environment is completely destroyed
Carla Gibson January 10, 2013 at 11:55 PM
It was known many DECADES ago that Florida's environment was in EXTREME trouble and nothing was done about it (or very little was done), so to me it looks like the quality of life here will keep going down the toilet until the environment totally collapses and people start moving out .. kinda like what happened back in he "Dust Bowl" days. Yes, Florida is too crowded and the environment is going to hell because if it. But greed and the Almighty Dollar rules, so enjoy it while you can, I guess. (the drinking water here is some of the worst I've ever tasted .. I would describe it as a mix of "alligator pee" and dirty goldfish bowl water)
Kristen Harvey January 11, 2013 at 02:37 AM
We do not have adequate water supply or resources to accommodate an increased influx. Gainesville is reporting salt water in the natural springs, and the major spring in Zephyrhills is completely dry. During the last drought, there was huge debate between Florida and Georgia over water rights. It will only get worse. Increased population is unsustainable.
Alex January 11, 2013 at 03:24 AM
Good point! I really don't think most locals care about the natual history, NOW, there are those who really do and don't really stand up to the sprawl and just blame the damn Yankee's for every bad thing in Florida. But I think there's a lot of people who are from down here that want the same things they see in the big city's in the north but still have Tampa or Florida to be the way it was in the 50's. Tampa is so rich with history it's not funny, but as long as the Buc's are winning and there's plenty of beads to go around that's all that really matters to most here. I went on my blue moon trip up to New Tampa today, and I was thinking how even if we put this light rail in, the roads would still be a nightmare, it's real navie to think that there would be throngs of people riding each day, we need senseable growth, not hurry and overbuild, then play catch up years later trying to widen road,etc.
Richard January 11, 2013 at 11:24 AM
One idea that might slow growth and make it more sustainable is to follow the example of Portland OR and stop new growth on new land, and require already developed land to be redeveloped. This would be beneficial to us all.
Leroy A Haggard January 11, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Population brings growth and problems. This is predominate where I live being the Largo area. Mass transit has to brought into the next century. 1-1/2 hour from Largo, Fl to St Pete by the PSTA bus system is horse and buggy days. Sidewalks, pedestrian crosswalks need to be upgraded. No longer able to driause of age, and moving here almost two years ago from a large city, the everyday feeling i have when I leave my house is that Florida is waving a big flag tjhat rreads "if you do not drive, you are not welcome. Shopping malls, street crossings are geard for cars and trucks only, and not for pedestreian traffic. In many cases getting from point A to Point B on foot is like having a death wish.
Opinionated...sometimes January 11, 2013 at 02:58 PM
The State and especially this County are over-crowded. "They" keep moving here for whatever reasons and most do not contribute financially. They rent a place, (no taxes paid for the county services used) take a job from a local, never transfer their car plates or get a Florida drivers license. Yet those of us that have lived here forever feel like we are being crowded out. And yes is you don't drive, forget it! There are no safe places to walk, crossing the street, oh well, its like they speed up to try to hit you..sometimes I wonder what goes through their minds if anything. No courtesy, always in a rush! And our beaches, well Clearwater Beach USED to be beautiful, now its just a lot of concrete and parking lots, not so nice. And congested, I haven't been there in years, why bother. And our eco systems and wildlife are "dead" more deer are killed every day and why. Our water stinks. I have never seen such a poor excuse for water and we get charged a lot of money for this crappy liquid. I think the beauty of Florida is gone-too much development and no thought as to how it will affect the area. There are more shopping centers and office buildings sitting empty yet still new ones are bring built on once pristine land...why?? Its getting close to time to move...BUT where????Florida is NOT what it used to be and never will be again. To you newbees who come here and think everything is wonderful, well guess again, its not.......Have a wonderful day
Paul Allen January 11, 2013 at 04:19 PM
Your comment about renters is not accurate. The people who own the property are still paying property taxes. In fact more than a homeowner that is getting the homestead exemption. I agree with you on the car plates and drivers license. That's something that should be enforced.
Walt Mickler January 11, 2013 at 05:27 PM
The quality of life in Florida is definitely in danger ed by escessive population. Fresh water resources are already being streesed. More people means more air, water and ground pollution. When I was a child, Florida was full of beautiful, wild places with only 2 and 1/2 million people. Most of that is already gone. Stop the growth!!
Carolee M January 11, 2013 at 05:53 PM
Yes, if no car, Florida is not for you! I am a pedestrian, and every time I try to cross the street, with the signal and in the crosswalk, I take my life in my hands. In Dunedin, it is treacherous, especially at Keene and Main. And yes, the water is vile.
Carla Gibson January 11, 2013 at 06:16 PM
Mindy, I'm not going to get into a debate about the quality of water here, but to ignore that the eco system in Florida isn't being affected by over population and poor planning by developers is like pretending we are all living in Disney World where everything is "perfect." Seeing that there are some BIG problems in Florida is NOT the same as being in a negative state of mind .. on the contrary, pretending that everything is "perfect" is why Florida is suffering today. Please listen to those like Walt Mickler .. people who have seen the "Florida of Yesterday" know the REAL story about the damage over population has caused. (as for the quality of water here .. just try tasting it. I never bought bottled water until I moved to Florida (never had to).
Michael D. January 11, 2013 at 06:20 PM
Yes, population is a problem. Especially in Pinellas County because it is the most densely populated county in Florida. But some of the issues like walking down streets etc.. isn't a Florida problem it's a specific problems to some of the areas in this state. The Tampa Bay Region is not well suited for walkers, but having been to most places in this state there are a number of city that is just fine for walking from point A to point B. Water has been an issue, especially with the droughting in the North Central Florida area. Population isn't the cause, just weather paterns. There are many areas of Florida that are not as densely populated as our area here. But in the areas of mass density it is bad. I am a native of Florida, but a transplant to this area (since 2002).
Opinionated...sometimes January 11, 2013 at 06:49 PM
Well Mindy you speak of the Buddy System, if it is so beautiful and safe why does one need a buddy?? I don't know how long you have lived here, but most of North Pinellas was orange groves and a lot of eastern Pasco County...so I and most of us get very frustrated and the growth and the discourtesy of the people, mainly on the highways. and I do feel sorry for those who attempt to walk.. Also Paul...I know the owners pay taxes, but the renters seem to use more services, like our school system, county medical services etc. etc. and thats what taxes are for...maybe I'm taking it too far but sometimes it just feels that way and if someone doesn't like what I've said ......Read the First Amendment Sorry Folks I just call 'em as I see 'em.. :) i
Dave Deal January 11, 2013 at 06:57 PM
Well, if Rick Scott had allowed the rail system to go ahead that would alleviate a little of the traffic around here...but alas! He didn't..
Leroy A Haggard January 11, 2013 at 07:07 PM
And I thougjht it was just the Largo area, the Largo being a patch of land that lies between Clearwater and St Petersburg, Fl. From the above comments, it appears the entire state of Florida is in disarray. And as to the water quality, I use approx 20 pounds of salt per week in my watering system to keep the water drinakable and soft to keep appliances in working order. Then, where are our elected officials ? Are the blind to these problems. Try crossing a six lane highway at an intersection with the traffic signal allowing 30 seconds to cross. Try doing that using a walker. There things the government can do, but probably won't or can't because of money Shovel ready was what i heard several years ago, Now they just get rustry.
Jennifer S. January 11, 2013 at 07:39 PM
my family just moved here from out-of-state. we're one of those damn yankees of which you all speak. i pay taxes. i changed my plates. i got a florida license. i bought a home. i pay ridiculously high taxes (way higher than i paid in the northeast from where i came). i love it here but it seems like a few of you fools should think about moving. maybe you can find some farmland in alaska that isn't over-developed. folks, these problems you are speaking of happen all over the country, it's not just here.
Michael D. January 11, 2013 at 08:03 PM
Dave, Though I think rail if done properly would be great for the area. But the rail deal he shot down was an extremely poorly made piece of legislation. And it should have been shot down.
Opinionated...sometimes January 11, 2013 at 09:29 PM
Jennifer I am not referring to EVERYONE, but our State is not the same and it is being ruined. Just because you pay taxes does not mean you are cognizant of the environment and you are probably living in a house sitting on property that once was a ranch, field or orange grove.that once provided "fresh air" to our community not car emissions. Sorry but we are not moving.....Maybe you are part of the problem. Enough said I am not getting into a great debate, live where you want, do what you want and tell your grandchildren why there is no wildlife or fresh air or fresh water (oops that's already gone)
Allie's Grandpa January 12, 2013 at 03:18 AM
There must be a limit to development in any community, county, or state. Like Jennifer S. we moved here from out of state, but just because we pay taxes, as does every other resident (either directly or indirectly), that does not mean that we, or any future new Florida citizens, has a right to demand more and more growth. And as for the understandable few who say, "let's get back to the way we were", that doesn't happen anywhere, but nobody should be suggesting to those good folk that they should move to Alaska. Ironically, I have been following a proposed development project in my old neighborhood up north, and many of my former neighbors are saying things like "let's get back to the farming community we were before all of the housing developments changed the tone of the community." Sadly, those folks don't seem to realize that even for creation of farmland there had to be a big change from the forests and scrub brush land that those farm plots were, before they became plots for the 1/2 acre houses. The challenge, and it is an important challenge, is to make sure that growth is limited so that we don't create a civic and ecological monstrosity, and that is just as true in Florida as it is in any state up through the mid-west or the eastern seaboard. It also means that smart growth principles need to be followed, and that redevelopment of underutilized, or abandoned, sites needs to be the priority over the destruction of habitat and watershed virgin land.
Mindy January 12, 2013 at 03:39 AM
hey alex! not to crazy 'bout your "damn yankees" expression. don't think florida would be as vibrant if it wasn't for the folks who have moved here over the years! bad choice of words...in my opionion!
Mindy January 12, 2013 at 04:01 AM
have you actually taken a survey of what really matters to most people here mr. tiegen? i'm thinking not! you insult not only me but others as well. i commend your work at the Patch but your choices of words are less than desirable.
Mindy January 12, 2013 at 04:05 AM
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Opinionated...sometimes January 12, 2013 at 06:21 AM
Allies Grandpa Well Said and Thank you!
michael mirra January 13, 2013 at 01:11 AM
The Damn Yankee comment is not cool. It isn't 1970 anymore. The main thing that keeps Florida green is the Yankee dollar. The only time I agree with the term Damn Yankees is if you are talking about the baseball team's fans that live here & continue to support a team for a city 1,000 mies away, where they no longer live. We have one of the best teams in baseball here in Tampa Bay & fail to support their home town team to the point that they may move to another city where people would embrace them for the great team that they are. Too many ex NY ers live here, but aren't Tampa Bay people. They are New Yorkers that are currently living away from home. Some for 30-40 years, or more. Read my lips. The Yankees are the enemy. We strive to bet them & are doing a damn good job for the comparitive dollar.
Alex May 01, 2013 at 09:34 PM
I'm really sorry, I wasn't at all critizing "people from the north" I was commenting the feelings some locals have about northerners which I am one of them. So sorry for the confusion.


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